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Auburn championship claim update

Auburn Athletics recently claimed three more championships (1913, 1983, 1993) which is credited on their football team Wikipedia page but it is not reflected on the full list of team claims as they are still at 2. There was an article on it recently. 98.29.64.110 (talk) 08:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also posted here in October 2023: Talk:Auburn Tigers football#Auburn claimed National Championships: 2 vs. 5

There is a rumor sweeping blogs and twitter that the university has officially claimed the 3 additional years on their Auburn Football Tradition and History web page.

The reality is that that webpage has been online in the same form since 2018 and is is no way a recent change to Auburn's claims. The 5 championship years still are always clearly attributed as sourced from the NCAA book:

The NCAA Record Book lists Auburn as National Champions in 2010, 1993, 1983, 1957 and 1913.

2010 | 1993 | 1983 | 1957 | 1913 (Source: NCAA Record Book)

Meanwhile, the athletic department constructed and maintains a giant sign on the side of Jordan-Hare Stadium, visible to the 88,043 fans attending each game:

Auburn Tigers
National Champions
1957 2010

This prominent display of the the 1957 AP Poll and 2010 BCS titles, and exclusion of the 1993, 1983, 1913 (as well as 1910 and 2004) titles, is the cited proof that Auburn University continues to claim only 1957 and 2010.

This issue was also previously discussed here:

PK-WIKI (talk) 07:03, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historic occurrences addition?

Should 1940 (1941 Sugar Bowl) b/n Boston College and Tennessee be included? Yes, I know that Minnesota won the AP national title, but if we're going to include the 1985 Orange Bowl b/n Washington and Oklahoma, should this be added since there are WP:RS from 1940 billing the game as "national championship contest."^[1]^[2]^[3] Oluwasegu (talk) 00:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Harris, Otis (December 2, 1940). "As we were saying". The Shreveport Journal. Vol. 44, no. 285. Shreveport, Louisiana. p. 14. Retrieved March 5, 2023 – via Newspapers.com. [T]he game will come closer than any other that will be played to identifying the national champion.
^ Digby, Fred (January 1, 1941). "The Game Today". Seventh Annual Sugar Bowl Classic Souvenir Program. pp. 27, 71. Retrieved March 5, 2023 – via Digital Public Library of America. Each will be out to the limit in speed, stamina and spirit to capture the honors in this classic which could rightfully be heralded as for the national football championship.
^ Written at New Orleans. "Boston College homebound after joyous celebration in New Orleans following Sugar Bowl win". The Shreveport Times. Vol. LXVIII, no. 213. Shreveport, Louisiana. January 3, 1941. p. 10. Retrieved March 5, 2023 – via Newspapers.com. 'The Eagles not only earned the national championship but they proved the greatest team ever to play in the Sugar Bowl,' said Fred Digby of the New Orleans Item.

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Under "National championship claims" LSU incorrectly redirects to LSU Tigerss Football which is an invalid link TravisOfSDK (talk) 16:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done PianoDan (talk) 17:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change 'Georgia' hyperlink in 'Claims by school' table from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerogia_Bulldogs_football" to "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgia_Bulldogs_football".

Apologies if this is formatted improperly - first time using Wikipedia as an editor. Energuette (talk) 15:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jcoolbro (talk) (c) 16:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ohio State 1998 Sagarin National Champions

In January 2015, I noted that Ohio State is listed as National Champion on Sagarin’s website, even though the NCAA record book listed Tennessee in error. Shortly after, this championship was added to the listing in 1998 and to Ohio State’s total championships with a footnote referring to the above NCAA record book error. I believe that it was added by the moderator (Dolenath?) at that time. When I was looking at this article a couple of days ago, I see the 1998 Ohio State championship is no longer listed. I’m not sure when it disappeared, but it seems that the 1998 championship with the appropriate footnote should be added back to the article by the current moderator, since Sagarin’s own 1998 College Football website confirms Ohio State as the national champions that year. Let me know if you agree. Thanks! GABinOHIO2 (talk) 01:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See up there at the top of the page under "Tasks awaiting attention":

"Sagarin Ratings selections changed in various editions of the NCAA book. Find the differences and add to article." Jeff in CA (talk) 07:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the work recently done at Billingsley Report to track the various changes to that formula over the years and record books.

The same should be done at Sagarin Ratings.

I removed the 1998 Ohio State selection in May 2024 with the following edit summaries:

1. (diff) Add citations showing January 1999 selection of Tennessee by Sagarin Ratings, which is also the selection printed in the NCAA records book.

2. (diff) Remove 1998 Ohio State via Sagarin Ratings from major selections table. Remove correction note that added them. Not in NCAA book, citations from previous edit show contemporary January 1999 selection of Tennessee. There is perhaps a later "ELO-CHESS" Sagarin algorithm that chose them, in which case they could possibly be re-added and marked as retroactive.

The archived January 4, 1999 selection of Tennessee published by USA Today seems pretty conclusive to me for the contemporary BCS Sagarin selection. Later (when?) ELO-CHESS evaluation is interesting but does not seem to be covered by any reliable sources.

PK-WIKI (talk) 08:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ohio State 1998 Sagarin Ratings Champions reply

Thanks for the clarification and attachment for the 1998 USA Today listing, but the USA Today site that I am pulling up under https://Sagarin.USAToday.com for College Football Team Ratings 1998 - Jeff Sagarin Ratings also says FINAL at January 4, 1999 with Ohio State number one with 99.20 points with an 11-1 win-loss record and Tennessee second with 98.49 points with a 13-0 win-loss record. It seems to me that if this is Jeff Sagarin’s own website (which I acknowledge that it might not be), then it would seem to be a reliable source. Any additional follow-up to confirm which source is accurate is appreciated. Like the Billingsley change referenced, which makes sense, I just want the article to be accurate and corrected through footnotes if warranted. Thanks again. GABinOHIO2 (talk) 12:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Harris, Otis (December 2, 1940). "As we were saying". The Shreveport Journal. Vol. 44, no. 285. Shreveport, Louisiana. p. 14. Retrieved March 5, 2023 – via Newspapers.com. [T]he game will come closer than any other that will be played to identifying the national champion.

[2] Digby, Fred (January 1, 1941). "The Game Today". Seventh Annual Sugar Bowl Classic Souvenir Program. pp. 27, 71. Retrieved March 5, 2023 – via Digital Public Library of America. Each will be out to the limit in speed, stamina and spirit to capture the honors in this classic which could rightfully be heralded as for the national football championship.

[3] Written at New Orleans. "Boston College homebound after joyous celebration in New Orleans following Sugar Bowl win". The Shreveport Times. Vol. LXVIII, no. 213. Shreveport, Louisiana. January 3, 1941. p. 10. Retrieved March 5, 2023 – via Newspapers.com. 'The Eagles not only earned the national championship but they proved the greatest team ever to play in the Sugar Bowl,' said Fred Digby of the New Orleans Item.

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